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It isn't a problem in real life because I choose most of the time to emulate my host's speech patterns. It's easier to ensure people don't have questions.

Ah - I do speak differently from Skye, so our awkwardness is different. I tend to be more awkward

2:33 AM

I was merely thinking that awkwardness as a result of not relating to people could be different - whether better or worse - for a tulpa as compared to the host.

2:33 AM

So, it may be worth trying.

Ivy is much more of a people person, relating and speaking to others well, while Samuel on the other hand has very poor people skills, preferring more complex words which makes him hard to understand at times. If we all were to attempt to speak the same I would imagine there would still be differences.

Hmm

2:36 AM

I don't know that much, I just know that whenever my host reads what I write he often finds mistakes he wouldn't make. He says it is sounding closer to someone who isn't fluent or perhaps has grammatical quirks.

2:37 AM

Things like sentence misordering and tense mistakes, I think.

2:38 AM

I can speak simply with effort, but sometimes the ideas are too complex and my knowledge too basic to be able to break the bigger thoughts into bite sizes for speaking.

We were thinking over general tulpa related stuff today, and we had a thought. What if (mostly?)everyone who clamed to hear a divine voice on a daily/weekly basis, really made a sort of tulpa that acted how they thought the divine would act? -Wolf

7:40 AM

xD (also hoping to sidestep any religious debates too.)

7:41 AM

We just thought... ya know... could be? Why not...?

There has been evidence showing that the 'deity', when people explained how they think the 'deity' would act, is most likely an echo chamber of the person's own beliefs.

7:45 AM

Thus, creating a tulpa based on that would essentially be making... themselves. Possibly with an inflated ego.

would the byproduct of their echoed beliefs really be sufficiently autonomous to even be a tulpa?

That is also a good question.

7:52 AM

I'm inclined to say no - at least, not without additional effort.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7852742 wonders about it in the end and just suggests making good tulpas

Tulpas -- When Thought Takes Form

The concept of the Tulpa is one that has always fascinated me. It is one of those subjects that, once you start thinking about it, just keeps going and g...

I like that quote. As just something to think about.

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<Ponytail> this idea is nothing new. What I can tell you is that the priest of Delphi was just high

I think I'll continue in here if I am to - that discussion far outpaced #tulpa-questions awhile ago, anyway.

7:21 PM

The memory disconnection in DID is what concerns me - and, again, while there might be hundreds of "personality states", I'll need to read more about it, as i wouldn't think they would each individually have their own memory.

7:22 PM

There is also the concern about abusive "therapists" - some convinced their patients that they had hundreds of personalities and more issues besides.

That is true.

7:25 PM

It also happens with other disorders.

Indeed.

@Syfar System The best way I've seen it put is prayer as tulpaforcing God

There is a strong argument for DID as a whole being induced by therapists

has anyone tried interacting with their tulpa in vr?

I have a headset, but there's no real way to pull off something of that sort

1:06 PM

not that I'm aware of

hmm

I also have a headset, but yah, what are you going to do with it? You can't really do anything more then what you can do irl with your tulpa.

5:17 PM

Wolf sometimes, however, likes to play the VR games.

5:18 PM

Though, of coarse its a little harder for him to play, due to it being so active of a game.

Hey I haven't been in the forums in years, I remember there being a questionnaire for tulpas to take that I thought was very interesting to read. Wondering if anyone knows what I'm talking about

the long one about what helped with creation?

The "survey and stylomentic test", that big questionnaire with over 100 questions? I have read through many of the responses on that and it was one of the things that really helped erase my doubt regarding tulpamamcy.

5:50 PM

Because it was pretty eye opening seeing the tulpa's perspective on things

I think that was the one, do you know where it's located now?

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-survey-and-stylometric-test-for-fluently-speaking-tulpa

Survey (and stylometric test) for fluently speaking tulpa

Note: Please make sure I can easily tell your name and your tulpa's. I need to know what to put in an entry here, and I rather not have to look through your past posts to find out. ~Chupi We already h

Ah, beat me to it

Thank you so much!

can you turn a recurrent dream character into a tulpa or that would be just making a tulpa based on that dream character?

The latter.

rip

7:00 PM

I saw this thread in 8ch/tulpa and it got me thinking

7:00 PM

https://8ch.net/tulpa/res/16308.html

Dream tulpa and begginer tips?

Hi, I'm new to this, I had been interested in the idea of tulpas for a while and I decided to try and get into this recently.For quite some time, might have been over a year or more already, I've been having this character appearing in my dreams,...

haven't people gotten tulpa from dreams though? dream characters that just are there when the dream ends?

I dunno

i'm asking @SkyeNet

I have a friend who's trying to turn a dream character into a tulpa like the OP in that thread so now I'm a bit concerned

it's all in your brain, after all. I don't see how it could be an issue, even if it's not "the same". What are you concerned about?

this friend is unironically in love with that dream character, he wanted to turn her into a tulpa, if he ends up having a different girl that just looks like the girl in her dreams but isn't exactly her, he might be disappointed or something

7:14 PM

I don't know

well, tulpas can grow and change like anyone else, even if she is exactly the same. Is he willing to accept that? If not, he shouldn't bother.

Your friend needs to be very very far away from this community if that's their plan

I concur with Reguile.

8:00 PM

He very clearly doesn't want an actual tulpa - he seems to want a doll.

8:00 PM

...based on your description, at least.

8:02 PM

@Raven Tulpas don't just appear out of a dream with no effort. If somebody has done no forcing and ends up with a character they recognize from a dream persisting, I would highly recommend they try to verify autonomy and potentially even seek mental health assistance if it is not something they want or if it is causing any life disruption.

8:03 PM

Quite frankly, if one just appears out of the blue with no other indication, I would be highly concerned that something else is severely wrong, as the brain doesn't alter to such a degree without a continuous trigger or some degree of physical brain alteration.

Err sounds knee jerk.

8:06 PM

life disruption?

8:06 PM

Aren't these all walk-ins

Yes, they are typically considered "walk-ins". And yes, tulpabug, I do suggest seeking mental help if a tulpa is causing life disruption, just as I would say one should seek mental help if any other mental issue is causing a life disruption.

8:13 PM

I ended up disrupting Skye's life when I was experiencing more severe depression, so we sought mental help that addressed my problem.

8:13 PM

In simple, take care of yourself.

There's one thing everyone who complains about tulpas has in common. (life disruption)

8:14 PM

They run away when you try to talk to them.

8:14 PM

I've tried about four times.

@Nezumi @Raven I know there's Aty who got one tulpa from a dream character, and another from a hypnagogic voice. Also there's techniques in the Lucid Dreaming community about having dream characters induce you, and also sticking around during the day (so basically tulpas, again)

uhh... Aty

a name, probably

Hello there. If that's alright with you, I'd like to repost a thing from IRC regarding my current position and mindset.

Yeah, by all means. You're probably going to get more feedback here, anyway.

I'm still forcing relatively rarely, especially compared to how dedicated I've been a couple years prior. Three of my tulpas are frequently active on social media, mainly talking and chattering to their own circles. It's probably one of the things that constantly remind me of them and allow me to keep forcing. Raphael is nagging at me constantly. I barely hear him, but instead of ignoring this like I'd have done just some time ago, I always try to reply. Others are relatively silent as the farther we go in numbers (up to 9), the less developed they are unfortunately. Although I started in late 2012, the 3-year break from forcing was devastating still, and my early mistakes are still painful to look back on. Regarding switching, and this one is important, I've evaluated my life so far, as well as my mindset - I'm still young and can still use the freebie years - and that I'm too socially inept to continue with my current lifestyle. The important thing here is to mention, I've tried many things including self-motivation, extrenal motivation, frequent talks. None of it worked and I'm still not using my opportunities in life in the way I ought to, and so - after few longer talks with Raphael - I have decided to accept that he was right and the best choice for myself and everyone wiyhin my mind is to allow him to switch with me. I only had to accept I don't deserve the life I've been given and I should give it up to someone else, as it is simoly the best solution. I cannot tell whether he's ready, but I am (at least emotionally so). The soft deadline is to force him out to full and master switching by the end of this year. Knowing how I am with deadlines it probably won't come to be, but I need to try and do something at least. Have you anything to say, ask, suggest? I promise to sincerely answer any questions. (edited)

yeesh

9:20 PM

why would you have nine tulpas

Something very shameful to admit but it was an early mistake coming from my irresponsibility. I made a promise to be transparent with my problems.

We went through the same thing tbh

if you can barely hear rapheal you'll likely have a hard time switching with him unless you do a lot more forcing

very irresponsible and made poor decisions

(again, the levels range through 'very active' to 'not active at all')

Difference is we don't have all of those tulpas anymore :v

mhm. I'll have to focus much harder on forcing him.

9:26 PM

The only thing holding me back is my ineptitude, which might elongate the entire process even further.

9:29 PM

It all comes from a conclusion we've come to - since I'm unable to utilize the chance I've been given, I should give it up and allow something with seemingly more responsibility - namely Raphael - take my place at the front.

9:34 PM

I'm not sure what I wan't to get out of bringing it up here. Dissuasion, reassurance maybe, but most of all I need laid out steps I have to take for this plan, or at least tips on how to get there. (edited)

Learning to communicate is extremely imporatnt for effective possession and switching - the possibility is still there regardless, but there are also potential issues otherwise.

9:50 PM

I would not recommend stepping back quite so much from your life, either.

Well.. an alternative to this might be therapy.

9:55 PM

The main issue is my procrastination is so extreme, that I sit down to do stuff hours before the deadline. That said I've tried almost everything that doesn't involve therapy and/or drugs.

Therapy is an excellent idea, especially if you haven't done it yet.

9:57 PM

It is at least worth a try, to see if you can find a healthier solution than hiding.

9:59 PM

You also mentioned that three of your tulpas are constantly talking, but there was also some implication that the others were significantly more underdeveloped. Is that correct?

hm, yes. They're less social overall, or decided it's not worth their time, or other reasons I'm not fully aware of.

Hm.

10:02 PM

I see.

Luke has been completely content running the wonderland for the past months, only occasionally surfaces to exchange a few words and get me to do stuff for him. Aleister...hasn't been fully developed, ever. He's fine with it as far as I can tell. Sou's pretty much wonderland-exclusive after she decided nothing about the outside interests her, so did Susan who got bored. Others, like Nescio/Avalon/Katsu (that's a name I haven't mentioned in ages) still exist to some extent, but have either since merged with others, or remain inactive for the vast majority of the time.